Interview In regards to the Way forward for Journey Connections: Stanislav Stepanov


Let’s assume the pandemic is over, which is hopefully quickly the case. There are good indicators for it. The regular enhance of our web site visitors is considered one of them.

There was a whole lot of thrilling information up to now few months once we check out the tech trade, which may even take its results into the journey and media trade.

There may be for instance the development of search outcomes. A 3rd of the web customers globally use voice search to search out outcomes. The developed AI (synthetic intelligence) of Google tries then to offer direct info. Their purpose is to offer out this info spoken and sooner or later perhaps begin a dialogue with the person.

Think about you discover a metropolis and also you begin the next dialog together with your cellphone:


You: “Hey Google, listing me the most effective eating places within the space.”

AI: “Certain, is there a particular delicacies you would favor at the moment?”

You: “I might like to attempt one thing native. However I might even be positive with a very good pizza. It’s extra vital that it’s genuine.”

AI: “There’s a very fashionable road vendor two metro stops away, which is well-known for his or her native and genuine dishes. Here’s a video and article about it. In case you favor one thing nearer, there may be an Italian restaurant simply across the nook, which bought 4.5* scores for his or her pizzas.”

You: “Give me the instructions to the road vendor, but in addition make a reservation on the restaurant for 8pm tonight.”

Up to now my fantasy… however Google will want a lot of enter and assist from the group and web site operators to have the ability to create this type of service.

I’m to listen to extra about what we may count on from this new period. What sort of new instruments (tech, deeptech) will likely be there? Let’s talk about who now we have to lookout for and what tendencies are value becoming a member of, which of them will not be?

Let me introduce you to one other avid traveler Stanislav Stepanov, founding father of BilliOnAir. His start-up is introduced in Canada and Europe with its head-office in Grenoble-France in one of many well-known European progressive hubs – INOVALLEE

This numerous, competent and enthusiastic staff works on growing the primary “real-time immersive indoor & outside interactive 360° video streaming platform to interact distant vacationers and native tour guides”.

Stanislav is a serial entrepreneur with over 20 years of expertise in worldwide enterprise improvement constructing and working early-stage startups in inexperienced R&D for oil & gasoline, aerospace industries, main a non-profit ecological group. He’s an professional in implementing and scaling progressive applied sciences and constructing relationships with resolution makers. Join with him on LinkedIn and Twitter.


TD: How good is my fantasy? Will we see the same search dialog like within the instance above within the close to future?

Stanislav: This instance is sort of a actuality. Companies that really assist vacationers on their precise journeys are progressing quickly. Your instance is an instance of how AI and ML work. These applied sciences have the widest utility at the moment, and the query of a full-fledged dialogue between man and machine (or software program) just isn’t a query of tomorrow, however of at the moment. So your fantasy is kind of practical. The principle factor is that it ought to profit the traveler, who asks inquiries to the machine (software program). And by the best way, when individuals are asking such an AI assistant, they won’t essentially say “Good day, Google”, it could be for instance “Good day, Naver”.

TD: If Google provides out spoken outcomes, how can a web site operator, for instance a lodge director, tour operator or journey blogger profit from this?

Stanislav: As may be seen from the identical instance of a Human- AI dialogue, which by the best way is kind of a very good one that you simply cited, it’s normally of a quick informational nature. Even the fairly humane try of the AI to offer its solutions a bit extra emotional taste, doesn’t give the person (human) a full-fledged substitute for what he can see along with his personal eyes, study for himself (by visiting the identical restaurant or lodge). That’s, in the case of the advantages of a particular enterprise related to journey and tourism (lodge, restaurant, present retailer, and so forth.), then AI is simply one of many instruments within the fingers of entrepreneurs on this enterprise – for info and model consciousness within the eyes of the person. A useful instrument, however considered one of quite a lot of instruments accessible to entrepreneurs now.

TD: One competitor of Google is Fb, who calls themselves Meta now. What’s behind the thought of Metaverse?

Stanislav: Behind this concept is strictly the nice work of entrepreneurs. I’m not evaluating the rebranding or the founder’s newest speech, which has historically been the topic of memes on the Internet. I’m speaking in regards to the degree of quotability, and the market response that adopted. From a advertising standpoint – Absolute Bravo! To the staff that applied it.

Nonetheless, If I begin answering the particular “What’s behind it” query, we’re going to need to put aside a few days for that. And that’s only for the primary dialog )). The basic concept of the entire image of the interplay between the digital world and the actual world, was thesed by Avi Bar-Zeev, one of many legends and pioneers of VR, for whom the subject of the interplay of various realities is the subject of his a few years of labor. 

In reality, based mostly on this view, there are lots of totally different hypostases of the universe, and it’s not simply Meta.

Learn: Beyond Meta: The Seven Verses

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TD: They name it the “subsequent evolution of social connection”. Do you agree with this? Why or why not?

Stanislav: I nearly agree. Except it turns into the following evolution of separation. Or “disconnection trying like connection”. Are you positive that’s not going to occur? I’m not.

I haven’t seen pickets or queues of Fb-Meta customers with “We’d like a subsequent evolution of social connection” banners. I haven’t seen individuals affected by any lack of social connectivity. I haven’t seen a single analysis with reference to humanity’s actual request for the evolution of social connection. That is the place now we have to ask, “What’s behind this?”.

Clearly, we’re witnessing a standard recreation with the human thoughts, unconscious and a focus. Such video games are at all times very fascinating. And they’re typically efficient, particularly in the case of creating new markets or redefining previous ones. The one query is for whom is that this recreation of actual worth – for Zuckerberg, or for the individuals dwelling on planet Earth?

I’m simply undecided that humanity has determined to desert human look in favor of avatars (synthetic faces and our bodies) to resolve the so-called “lack of social connection” downside. And if it (humanity) did so, it might be good to know the place, when and the way such a choice was made.

It additionally stays unclear how Fb-Meta’s new technique suits in with the UN Sustainable Improvement Targets resembling Aim #10:

Reduce inequality within and among countries

Social connection implies individuals interacting on some basis-whether they agree totally free or for a fee-but for the sake of some purpose or system of targets. 

TD: We’ve seen the web recreation “Second Life” which began in 2003. It sounds fairly related. What’s totally different and what may make the distinction to succeed now within the mainstream market?

Stanislav: Second Life is a pioneer group, which primarily began the creation of what’s now known as the Metaverse (Dejaverse by Avi Bar-Zeev). The power of the group lies in its members and creators, and within the guidelines that they agree on and comply with. It’s the sort of self-organizing atmosphere that sociologists would possibly name a democracy. 

Right here I can solely quote Natalie Clayton  “We’re going to maintain listening to about metaverse for months to return, however don’t be fooled. The metaverse has been right here for years, and it’s already larger, bolder and extra splendidly weird than something Fb may hope to supply.”

Your entire article is right here: Virtual worlds are already better than the metaverse will ever be

TD: How can the journey trade profit from a service like Metaverse? Please give a number of examples.

Stanislav:  There are a few advantages accessible for the journey trade now. Beginning with the nascent tradition of 360 video, when journey fanatics attempt to report 360 movies of their journeys, and it turns into widespread. Periodically, individuals can discover such movies randomly on conventional video streaming platforms, and get their perspective on totally different journey locations from a special approach. Typically, any such content material for popularizing journey locations is kind of efficient if executed properly.

One other potential profit is said to advertising once more. Organizing on-line buying in a metaworld is kind of potential, and will likely be one of many catalysts for gross sales of travel-related merchandise.

The latest selections of Barbados (Barbados to Become First Sovereign Nation With an Embassy in the Metaverse) and Seoul (Seoul to Launch ‘Metaverse’ Public Service Platform in 2022) additionally converse to the applicability and potential of VR, 360, AR for the journey trade as an entire as they develop into a catalyst for viewers curiosity and a instrument to retain that curiosity, and that’s in the end crucial for creating a positive enterprise atmosphere and a brand new tradition of enterprise interplay. If a digital universe consists of digital international locations, territories and companies useful for actual individuals in the actual world – then why not? It’s a win-win scenario.

TD: What different thrilling new applied sciences do you see rising within the close to future?

Stanislav: We imagine that a big a part of video content material will exist within the type of 360 video. Its share will develop, and it’ll develop fairly quickly. There are a lot of components contributing to this. One of many conventional issues of the so-called 360 VR trade has at all times been the standard of the content material. Many movies had been merely uncomfortable to look at earlier than. Now that downside is being solved by main advances in Arduous and Software program. Arduous is getting cheaper, Gentle is getting higher with out exaggeration each day. Right this moment, a very good 360 video digicam prices as a lot as an iPhone, and a very good VR headset as a lot as half an iPhone. And costs are going to go down. That is at all times the case when a brand new gadget enters the mass market. So the query in regards to the variety of customers of VR (360 video) is a query of time and solely time. Everybody understands the distinction between 360 video and watching an everyday video on a flat gadget with frames. In 360 video an individual is immersed within the content material and exists in it. This is the reason it’s known as an immersive expertise. We imagine that via the event of such applied sciences (a mixture of breakthrough options in Arduous and Gentle), it’s potential to create very mandatory and helpful companies for an enormous variety of individuals everywhere in the Planet.

Digital Actuality – The Way forward for Journey Connections? Picture by DepositPhotos

TD: You determined your self to search out your luck in that market. Why precisely this area of interest? We’ve seen 360° movies for a number of years already, however they by no means performed a much bigger position. Not on YouTube and never on different web sites actually. What may be the gamechanger?

Stanislav: We concentrate on fixing 2 issues: the traveler – skilled or inexperienced, and the native tour information (or somebody who determined to develop into one).

The way in which we journey is damaged. And has been for a very long time now. Vacationers are struggling to discover a journey feelings substitute by watching conventional journey content material on present platforms. In reality, it’s exhausting.  As a result of no video can substitute journey for at the least one billion individuals who have loved journey at the least as soon as of their lives. 

What if a traveler can discover a method to take pleasure in touring even with out leaving dwelling?

We imagine there’s a revolutionary immersive mannequin to teleport and entertain individuals and produce them journey feelings. 

And that’s why we created BilliOnAir, the primary real-time immersive indoor & outside interactive 360 video streaming platform for distant vacationers and native tour guides. 

It’s constructed for skilled and unsophisticated vacationers, for skilled storytellers, video creators and for the inexperienced persons. 

BilliOnAir teleports and entertains vacationers, and helps native guides earn money.

Right here is the way it works: the native guides make dwell streams (extra easy wording: shoot and instantly transmit the video) from their areas utilizing 360 digicam, and distant vacationers from another areas (on the identical time) can watch and work together with the information and one another in the event that they watch the stream collectively… For this, a VR headset just isn’t required, however it’s beneficial to get a totally immersive expertise. Vacationers may also have interaction with guides utilizing a smartphone, PC or a pill. They guide upfront or be part of immediately any accessible 360 dwell stream and begin watching and interacting with their information the identical manner in the event that they actually journey. Multi functional click on. 

For native guides – digital excursions creators – our platform turns into a monetization instrument. The guides earn money from each stream and each traveler.

No jet-lag, no queue, no time-zone. Simply journey.

TD:  If we check out YouTube movies, a whole lot of them are in a low high quality. Not from the decision, however in the best way they had been produced. You see a ton of shaky movies, horrible digicam maneuvers and badly edited cuts and codecs.
To supply a 360° video in a very good high quality is an entire totally different recreation. You wish to work with skilled tour guides who’re amateurs in video productions. How shall they have the ability to produce nice movies after which perhaps even ‘dwell’?

Stanislav: BILLIONAIR Broadcasting Equipment (BBK) – is the primary tuition course made by our staff and lead by our Head of Manufacturing – Andrii Shramko – one of the vital skilled and acknowledged 360-video content material creators and producers.

BBK comprises a collection of classes and sensible suggestions earned by essentially the most experiences creators of 360-degree video.
This course helps anybody to have the ability to begin making 360 movies and dwell streams simply.

Mixed with all options of BILLIONIAR platform it supplies all advantages from the very starting.

In different phrases we assist our newbie 360-video creators from Day One and assist them develop into extra skilled. So for them to in a position to ship a fantastic high quality of pre-recorded or dwell video content material with out shakes, horrible digicam maneuvers and badly edited cuts.

TD: What about VR & AR? Why ought to a vacationer purchase and use a VR gadget and what worth will it present?

Stanislav: My grandmother lived in a small village in Siberia. For a few years they didn’t have a fridge, as a result of it had not but been invented then, and when it was invented, it was costly. Each time meals was saved outdoors the home within the -30 to -40 diploma chilly winter. It was a fantastic and useful, but in addition solely a seasonal resolution for preserving meat, fish, and so forth. In summer time, such merchandise had been saved within the cellar. It was additionally an answer, however much less dependable.

Then got here the period of fridges, they’ve develop into accessible, together with for my grandmother. It’s clear that by the point she was an aged particular person, she was blissful to have a fridge within the kitchen – an out-of-season resolution accessible 24 hours a day at a distance of 1 step. So she has to not run out each time for merchandise within the chilly winter, or climb the steep stairs into the cellar in summer time to get them.

Vacationers might or might not purchase VR headsets. However as soon as they attempt to use them for journey enjoyable, resolution making, buying, and so forth., they’ll respect the advantages of such an all-season accessible at arm’s size 24/7 resolution

TD: How can journey manufacturers, but in addition the digital media publishers profit from this step?

Stanislav: To begin with, it is a chance for manufacturers to showcase their merchandise within the type of new content material. This attracts the eye of the viewers.

Within the type of content material in which you’ll immerse your self (drive down a ski slope in Rossignol skis with a good friend carrying a brand new Moncler swimsuit) – much more consideration as a result of impact of presence.

Properly and the primary concept – when such content material is watched with VR headset, there may be nothing else to distract. Thus, manufacturers seize the person’s consideration and might do with this consideration no matter they need in principle. 

Digital media have gotten international guides and platforms for the engagement of billions of individuals world wide.

TD: Why are 360° movies a critical various? Will this embrace VR & AR?

Stanislav: 360 video and the engagement of individuals watching collectively for instance 360 video broadcasts from vacationer areas is mostly a critical various to what’s now known as the meta universe. It’s primarily the identical actuality that’s now turning into accessible to everybody. This is similar fridge for my grandmother in Siberia.

VR and AR expertise have gotten the instruments to perform such an concept. In case you think about a 360-life stream from the middle of Rome, when your information with a digicam walks alongside the route Colosseum – Spanish Steps and tells you in regards to the sights and historical past, you’ll be able to see as a characteristic the pop-up, superimposed AR tags and navigation hyperlinks, which simply would possibly comprise helpful associated info or unobtrusive promoting.

Now let’s take into consideration the primary factor – why such another is vital. What’s journey in essence. It’s when an individual will get out of his normal location (metropolis, nation) and bodily visits one other location – normally removed from his dwelling. In at the moment’s world, that is typically executed by air journey, for it’s extra environment friendly to cowl a distance of say 1000 km or extra. 

Just a few years in the past Boeing carried out a research and obtained this information. Of all the inhabitants of the Earth, only one billion individuals have had the expertise of flying by air at the least as soon as of their lives. That implies that the remaining roughly 7 billion individuals have by no means flown in an airplane. Which means they haven’t seen unfamiliar areas of their lots. It means they haven’t and nonetheless don’t have sufficient journey expertise. 

Why don’t we assist them? Why don’t we give them a handy, accessible instrument to allow them to expertise the feelings of a traveler with out even leaving dwelling? No less than this manner we are going to convey them nearer to one thing new and unexplored, we are going to think about our mission achieved, after which they – customers will make their very own selections – to fly to Rome or go to it with a well-recognized or new information once more in a day, week, month with a 360-live stream for 4 euros as an alternative of 400 only for the ticket. 

Additionally, if we’re speaking about equality, let’s discuss older people who find themselves younger at coronary heart however can’t journey absolutely as a consequence of well being limitations. They deserve our consideration, and the chance to journey from the consolation of their very own houses, too – and they are going to be blissful to have that chance. That’s precisely the place there isn’t any prejudice about VR. For them VR is an actual manner out and an actual various and assist. The identical may be mentioned about wheelchair customers, of whom there are about 100 million on the earth. So the brand new instrument is already turning into an enormous profit for billions of individuals. And on the identical time it helps the tourism trade itself, and native tour guides, which now have the chance to create, conduct excursions, monetize their expertise on this market for a vast international viewers.

TD: Which vacation spot would you wish to discover via a 360° video? With a VR gadget? Why this spot?

Stanislav: We’re centered on, however not restricted to, widespread locations. 

I might say that for us it’s not a lot the identify of the geographical level on the map that’s vital, however the worth that this level represents for journey. We focus equally on all types of vacationer locations and actions. These are mountains, snowboarding, sea, seaside, museums, castles, metropolis excursions, gastro-tours, road performances, sports activities occasions, academic excursions, nature parks, theme parks. Typically, all types of actions that vacationers can expertise and afford whereas touring. That’s why we’re consistently inviting new and new guides, video content material creators, individuals who know their territories properly and are prepared to inform different individuals about them.

The VR gadget on this case is an effective key to the door that claims Teleportainment. But it surely’s not the one one. Our customers will have the ability to use their tablets, smartphones or computer systems to attempt the expertise. Once more, in our inherently democratic mannequin – then allow them to resolve for themselves whether or not or to not use VR headsets. Personally, I take advantage of it as a result of I loved it.

TD: OK, so which vacation spot will you select and use your VR to look at a 360° video? 

Stanislav: I’ve a listing of lots of of locations I wish to go to nearly and bodily. 

However for positive I wish to see and go to: Bali, Dolomiti, Archipelago Los Roques, Mont-Saint-Michel, Lisboa. My earlier dream was in regards to the Alps. However now I dwell right here in Grenoble (France), and my traveler’s dream is round me.

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